I failed to look after the Darned Tough; I walked the heels out of these right away, in boots that by no means had that concern with any of my other socks. I like that the seamless toes have an analogous experience to wearing stockings. I am a size 8 https://raymondmhzpf.tokka-blog.com/32731427/lenz-heat-socks-things-to-know-before-you-buy